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Commission Minutes

April 19, 2001
Oak Room, Memorial Union
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa

     
Members Present in the Oak Room: Dick Stoffer
Robert L. Cramer
Shirley Daggett
Daryl Henze
Gayle Collins
 
     
Guests Present: Penny Rosenthal, ISU Staff (Sloss Women’s Center)
Julie Thompson, UNI Substance Abuse Services
Julie Phye, Stepping Up Project, U of I
Sara Kellogg, ISU Staff
Rebecca Cooper, Iowa State Daily
Gene Russell, Iowa Hospitality Association
Willie J. Heggins, Dean of Students
Peter Englin, Dean of Students Office
Andrew Wrightsman, Interfraternity Council President
Linda Ciccone, ISU Substance Abuse Program Coordinator
Brian Dunn, ISU Student Health Center
Stacy Hupp, Des Moines Register
Lauri Dusselier, ISU Student Health Center
Kathy Gibbs, ACCESS
Bill Schaler, KASI
Wendall Mosby, ISU student and bartender
John Klaus, Ames City Attorney
Officer Tom Oxley, Ames Police Department
Colleen Rogers, Ames Tribune
     
Staff Present: Lynn Walding
Jim Kuhlman
Judy Seib
Linda Cox
Nicole Watson
Nick Podsiadly
     
Legal Counsel Present: John Lundquist, Assistant Attorney General


Call to Order

Chairperson Dick Stoffer called the meeting to order at 1:10 pm with a quorum present.

Introduction

Lynn Walding introduced commission member, Gayle Collins, who was recently appointed by Governor Vilsack and confirmed by the Senate to fill an unexpired term on the Commission. In addition, Mr. Walding announced that Dick Stoffer has been reappointed and confirmed to serve an additional five-year term.
Minutes of Previous Meeting (Available upon request)

Mr. Stoffer asked for discussion of the March 23, 2001 Minutes and the February 15, 2001 Minutes. There was no discussion.

  Motion: Shirley Daggett moved the Minutes of March 23, 2001 and the Minutes of February 15, 2001 stand approved as submitted. Daryl Henze seconded the motion, and it passed by unanimous vote.

Donation of Cellular Phones

The division recently purchased new cellular phones when the current cellular phone plan was upgraded to a national plan requiring tri-mode phones. Consequently, the division had six phones in good working condition that could be used for emergency 911 calls at no charge to the user. Penny Rosenthal accepted three phones on behalf of the Sloss Women’s Center and Kathy Gibbs accepted three phones on behalf of Assault Care Center Extending Shelter and Support (ACCESS).

The Sloss Women’s Center provides services to women and men on any issue related to personal safety, academic success and transitioning into college. Ms. Rosenthal stated students are often involved in relationships that put them in a vulnerable position and a cell phone will help in that situation.

ACCESS works with victims of domestic assault and sexual violence. According to Ms. Gibbs the most dangerous time for a victim is when they leave a relationship. Cell phones will be given to victims at risk so they can always have access to make a 911 or a collect call.

Sales Report

Although dollar sales have continued to increase, it appears sales are starting to flatten due to the weakening economy according to Jim Kuhlman. Dollar sales are up 5% for the year and Kuhlman expects the trend to continue through the fiscal year. There is a slight increase in sales of liter size bottles. About 80% of sales in Iowa are to the consumer for consumption at home.

Product Buyout Information

Jim Kuhlman explained the bailment system. The product buyout dollar profit through March of this fiscal year is $641,000.

Financial Report

The Division has transferred $1,500,000 more to the General Fund this fiscal year than was transferred last year for the same time period. Thus far, $27,000,000 has been transferred to the General Fund.

Mr. Kuhlman explained the wine tax is currently $1.75 per gallon and has been since 1986. Beer tax is 19¢ per gallon. Iowans consume approximately 2.2 million gallons of wine; 2.7 million gallons of spirits; and 66 million gallons of beer per year.

Warehouse Error Rate Report

Jim Kuhlman explained the labor intensive procedure previously used for picking orders in the warehouse. Since the J. A. Jones Management Company, in a joint effort with the Division, began using scanning equipment, the full case error rate has declined 29% and the split case error rate is down 72%. David Cale, project manager for the J. A. Jones Management Company, was introduced and complimented on the excellent job he has done in implementing the procedure. Mr. Cale reported that the current error rate is 8 times less than the 1994-1995 average, which makes for good customer relations.

Bob Cramer commented that the division is moving in the right direction; however split case is a labor-intensive operation and he feels there should be an additional charge to cover costs involved with offering the service.

RAGBRAI 2001

One of the functions of the Division is to provide educational programs for liquor licensees and for law enforcement officers. Each year, prior to RAGBRAI, the Division joins the DOT, the fire marshal and other leaders in conducting seminars for the Des Moines Register’s Ride Right Committee. The first seminar is conducted for the host communities in the overnight towns and a second seminar is held for the pass-through towns on the RAGBRAI route. The Alcoholic Beverages Division’s presentation gives a general overview of the laws and rules affecting the people who hold liquor, wine or beer licenses and the tools they need to comply with the laws. According to Judy Seib, the program has been very effective.

Dick Stoffer commented on the peer pressure an 18 year old faces who can legally serve beer for on premise consumption but cannot legally drink beer. Ms. Seib reminds license holders that the licensee is responsible and will have to suffer any liability issues on insurance and issues resulting from a license violation.

Counsel’s Report

John Lundquist reported that in the past four weeks over 30 cases have been resolved. The cases are primarily gambling violations.

Mr. Lundquist has filed an answer on behalf of the Division regarding the judicial review challenging the validity of the Tied House Rule. Mr. Walding added that HJR1 was introduced in the legislature to rescind the Tied House Administrative Rule adopted by the Commission. The Resolution made it through the committee but has moved no further. It will be a live round for next year. A representative from UDV has told Mr. Walding that the purchase of Seagrams by UDV is requiring a second review by the FCC and that review will not be completed until July or August.

State Tobacco Initiative

A bill was introduced this session to change the name of the Division to the Alcohol and Tobacco Control Division. The reason for the proposed change was to update the name to reflect the division’s responsibilities that now include tobacco enforcement. The Iowa Tobacco Advisory Committee (ITACom), a group that parallels the Alcoholic Beverages Commission, is working with the Division to help increase the compliance rate on tobacco sales to minors. The compliance rate has risen to 79% statewide. Nicole Watson reported that 2600 tobacco retailers have been checked with approximately 78% of those checked refusing to sell to the underage buyer. The Division has contracted with 200 local law enforcement authorities, including Ames, to do the checks. John Klaus, City Attorney for Ames, stated that at this time, he was not aware of any tobacco citations against retailers in Ames.

Lynn Walding showed the DOT’s prototype for a new drivers license that will send a signal to the retailer to pay particular attention to the age. Posters have been developed for the retailers break rooms.

Booze, Butts & Bingo Update

During the Booze, Butts & Bingo: Vice Crimes in Iowa seminars held last winter, over 500 law officers were trained. Similar training for the retail community will begin in Ames on April 26th. Training will be held in 12 communities throughout the state through May 4th. The focus will be on how to check for ID’s in an effort to get to the single digits for noncompliance, all of which is important because Iowa stands to lose $5 million in federal substance abuse monies. During that training, another program Cops in Shops will be announced.

Legislative Report

The fiscal year 2002 budget is through the Administration and Regulation Committee and is being debated by the Legislature. The proposal calls for a 17% cut amounting to $328,000. The proposal does not fund salary increases or the civil penalty educational fund. The Governor’s proposed budget cut was 6%.

Tobacco legislation is dead. There were proposals for statewide licensing which would have treated alcohol and tobacco similarly. Although the Governor is an advocate of .08 BAC, that legislation did not pass. The bottle bill, which proposed raising fees for retailers that handle bottles, is also dead.

Warehouse Contract RFP Update

The current warehouse contract with J. A. Jones Management Company expires June 30, 2001. The Division issued a Request For Proposal (RFP) in which the new contractor will be required to do more services. The Division received 4 bids in response to the RRP. The bid price was submitted on a per case charge as follows: Tibbits & Britton Group at $3.20; AJM Systems at $3.00; Jacobsen Company (an Iowa company) at $2.35; and J. A. Jones Management Company had the low bid of $1.85 per case. The division currently pays Jones Company $1.93 for each case shipped. The bid will be awarded to the J. A. Jones Management Company for a 5-year period with two five-year options. The new bid will result in savings of $509,000 to the State of Iowa over the next 5 years. If the division had gone with the next highest bid, it would have cost the State an additional $2,911,000.

Dram Shop Insurance

Iowa law currently requires every on-premises licensed establishment to provide dram shop insurance that helps protect the company from any harm that may occur to a party who is a victim of a drunken driver. The Alcoholic Beverages Division, by administrative rule, determines the amounts of dram shop insurance required. The dram shop law dates back to 1973 with no amendments to rates from that time until the present. A bill was introduced in the legislature this session to amend the dram shop law to exempt out anyone who contributed to his or her own injury; however, the bill did not make it out of committee.

Of the 27 states that have dram shop insurance requirements, Iowa requires the lowest amount, which Mr. Walding considers to be dangerously low. Some states have as high as $500,000; however, a more common amount is $100,000 to $200,000. The division does not want to increase the amount to the point premiums are prohibitive and people are driven out of business.

There is very little competition in Iowa and carriers are able to set their premium prices accordingly. According to Ms. Seib, the insurance companies rate differently; some companies’ rate according to volume and some rate by percentage of sales other than alcohol. A concern expressed by retailers is that if someone files a claim against them, insurance carriers automatically settle rather than bear the cost of litigation.

Other states offer other alternatives such as bonding and pool insurance, which has sparked lower rates allowing them to have higher dram limitations on their policies according to Nick Podsiadly. The division is looking at the possibility of pooled resources; however, pooled resources pose the danger of being under funded. The Insurance Commissioner suggested exploring the possibility of negotiating with one company to be the common carrier for all bars, thereby securing a uniform or joint rate. Iowa has allowed bonding in the past and that possibility will also be explored.

Bob Cramer commented that self-pooling seemed a good way to allow the smaller licensees to maximize their protection. Mr. Cramer suggested the division gather statistical information for the Commission to study and then perhaps assign the rates according to the volume of business. The goal is to present an administrative rule at the next Commission meeting amending 5.83 of the Rule to increase those limits.

Binge Drinking on College Campuses

Chairman Stoffer explained the Commission is seeking public comment on the issue of binge drinking on college campuses to guide the Commission in making recommendations to the Governor for the next legislative session. Because there was little or no comment from the student population at the February Commission meeting in Iowa City, this meeting specifically invites comment from students as well as from the general public.

Linda Ciccone, ISU Substance Abuse Program Coordinator —
Ms. Ciccone stated that 82% of the ISU student body is underage. The University’s purpose is to provide students with a healthful, safe educational environment in which they can learn. When there is encouragement of irresponsible decision-making regarding consumption, it becomes a major concern. Drink specials and happy hours that last all day encourage irresponsible consumption. Ms. Ciccone encouraged the Commissioners to make recommendations that would provide statewide regulations. Although it is desirable to look at local control, Ms. Ciccone said it does not work if one city passes an ordinance and a nearby city has no ordinance. The problem only moves from one community to another. She suggested the Commission look at price, volume, and frequency of drink specials offered by bars. Ms. Ciccone reported that an Iowa study done several years ago showed that for every 10% increase in tax on liquor, there was a corresponding 1% decrease in underage consumption. She assumed that there would be a similar relationship with retail prices.

When asked how student drinking has changed over the past twenty years, Ms. Ciccone commented that twenty years ago drinking was part of an event - today it is the event. Students begin drinking at an earlier age and many students come to campus with 5-6 years of established drinking patterns.

Ms. Ciccone does not believe lowering the legal age to consume alcoholic beverages from 21 to 19 will solve the problem on college campuses. It would be easier to enforce; however, the real issue is to involve the parents and family as partners in the effort. Studies have shown that consumption by minors can be decreased by 33% if parents have a conversation with their children stating their expectations regarding underage drinking and subsequent consequences if they do drink. Ms. Ciccone said there is a sound argument, based on health, for making 25 the legal age to consume because of brain development and the areas of the brain that are damaged by excessive alcohol consumption.

Ms. Collins commented alcohol consumed in moderation doesn’t usually kill, whereby cigarette smoking does. She questioned why the legal age for smoking is 18, if health is the argument for setting the age to legally consume alcohol. Ms. Collins believes that if an individual is considered legal age at 18, then the individual should be given responsibility and held accountable.

Ms. Ciccone said that consistent research shows that 25% of the people drink 75% of the alcohol. Obviously, society has to confront the issue of underage drinking; however, over 21, the target group is really the 25% who make the poor decisions and are involved in the accidents, crimes, assaults, etc.

Wendell Moseby, ISU senior from Chicago Heights, Illinois, former resident assistant at an ISU residence hall and a bartender —
Mr. Moseby believes binge drinking is more an Iowa culture rather than the result of bar special promotions. He believes this may be due to the fact that there isn’t much for Iowa’s youth to do after 10:00 p.m. Mr. Moseby made the following suggestions:
Make stiffer penalties for individuals who purchase alcohol for minors.
  • Hold parents more accountable for the actions of their children. Many know their underage children are consuming alcohol.
    > Look at limiting the number of cases of beer that can be purchased at retail stores.
  • Hold grocery stores, convenience stores, etc. to the same accountability as bars in running specials on beer and liquor products.
  • Place restrictions on specials.
  • Push for more responsibility and for legislation to require mandatory education for bar owners and their employees.

Mr. Walding offered the following responses to Mr. Moseby’s suggestions:

  • The University of Iowa is exploring alternative entertainment as a deterrent for underage drinking.
  • There was a bill a few years ago to require keg registration and some states have done that.
  • There is dialogue going on in Iowa about requiring grocery stores to carry dram shop insurance.
  • Louisiana does have mandatory responsible vendor training. There are programs available; however, the training is not mandatory under Iowa law. The Divisions “Booze, Butts and Bingo” training is free to all retailers.

Mr. Cramer asked Mr. MosebyÕs opinion on video cameras identifying all patrons and their IDs. Ms. Daggett asked about a reward system for confiscating fake IDs. Mr. Moseby responded the video sounded like a good idea; however, it might be expensive. He said some bars in Ames offer rewards for confiscated fake IDs. In response to a question by Mr. Stoffer, Mr. Moseby stated he sees a marked difference in the amount of drinking in Iowa and in Illinois. Iowa has more drinking and less accountability; however, Illinois has more violence.

Andrew Wrightsman — Interfraternity Council President for the Greek Community at ISU —
Unlike Mr. Moseby, Mr. Wrightsman believes that bar specials do contribute to the problem and that specials do encourage people to buy more and, consequently, drink more.

A survey given to incoming freshman at ISU shows that about 82% have already drunk in high school so drinking is the norm and is part of social life. The ISU campus has social marketing campaigns to increase student knowledge. The campaign shows that 69% of students at ISU have 4 or fewer drinks when they go out. In response to a question by Mr. Kuhlman, Mr. Wrightsman stated that according to the incoming freshman study, the northern and northeastern states have a higher percentage of drinking than students from other areas of the country. It is important to remember, however, that over 85% of the students at ISU are from Iowa.

Mr. Wrightsman made the following suggestions:
  • Begin a campaign similar to the tobacco campaign emphasizing the harmful effects of drinking and the consequences.
  • Provide more alternative events on weekends. The University offers grants to organize an alcohol-free event; however, that takes a lot of preparation. There is nothing to do on the spur of the moment.
  • Give people the option and then hold them accountable for their actions. He does not advocate a dry campus citing the problem only moves to another location.

Mr. Wrightsman applauded the efforts of the Commissioners in trying to make the communities more responsible and safer for everyone. The more the issue is discussed and written about, the more students will think about it. Unfortunately there is a small population that no matter what is done, nothing will change. Until the perception that drinking is cool is changed, people will find other ways to get alcohol and get drunk.

According to Wrightsman, the Government Student Body voted to start a Brad 21 chapter. Bradley McQue, a student at Michigan State, died after doing 24 shots of his 21st birthday. The parents’ organization sends out birthday cards to students a week before their 21st birthday with an alcohol poison information card and information about Brad McQue. In a survey, two-thirds of the people surveyed said they had thought of the card on their 21st birthday and were more responsible.

Mr. Wrightsman invited the Commissioners to a meeting at 4:00 PM at the Pioneer Room regarding future policies that the Greek community wants to have regarding alcohol.

Brian Dunn — Health Promotion Coordinator, ISU Student Health Center —
The theory of social norms is that students misperceive the amount of drinking that their peers do and that misconception drives their own drinking behaviors. According to Mr. Dunn, drink specials encourage students to drink more when they drink and contribute to the misconception that is the norm for a college student. If drinking specials can be controlled, it can help eliminate the misconception that students have about the amount of drinking their peers do and, hopefully, reduce the actual amount of binge drinking that occurs on campus.

Mr. Walding asked to what extent the movie Animal House created problems on college campuses. Mr. Dunn responded that if Animal House could be erased from history, it would do a lot to reduce the amount of binge drinking on college campuses because it has become so ingrained in popular culture. It is the definitive college movie in which students drank a lot frequently, so students have the misconception that is what college is.

Julie Phye — University of Iowa Stepping Up Project –
One of the concerns the U of I has is that they too inherit the problem. In a survey, 43% of University of Iowa students reported they came to campus as freshmen with a binge-drinking pattern established. Over two-thirds of the U of I students come from Iowa. Ms. Phye believes there is room for both local and statewide control.

Ms. Phye gave an update on the local control issue in Iowa City. There is a media misconception that efforts are falling apart in Iowa City with regard to local ordinances. The area of contention with some of the council members and some of the bar owners is a provision under a section called Limitation on Sales which has seven different provisions. The provision that did not allow a happy hour has been a problem and that provision was stricken from the section on Monday night. There were many complaints from citizens, as well as from bar owners, regarding elimination of a happy hour. In addition, many felt it would be a difficult provision to enforce. The city attorney’s office is working on it and it will be looked at again in two weeks. The current ordinance still has the issue of civil penalties, moving parts of the state code into the local code and giving the city council the opportunity to impose civil penalties on license holders.

Still in the ordinance at this time are the following:
  • The elimination of two for ones. There are questions regarding the definition of the provision of two drinks at a time.
  • The elimination of an unlimited number of drinks for a fixed price.
  • The elimination of having a double for the price of a single or increasing the alcohol without proportionally increasing the price.
  • The elimination of alcohol as a prize for a game or any kind of contest.
  • The elimination of dispensing liquor, wine or beer directly into a person’s mouth.

In response to a question by Mr. Walding, Ms. Phye stated that student opinion on the Iowa City ordinance is mixed. For the most part, students do not have a problem with the civil penalties. In response to a question by Mr. Henze, Ms. Phye said bar owners have lobbied against the happy hour provision and the limitation of only two drinks per person. Bar owners feel it would be difficult to enforce this provision and it would require more staff and more time to enforce. Ms. Daggett is not against having a happy hour; she favors limiting the time frame.

Mr. Cramer commented the drinking problem appears to be well established before the students enroll in college and that the colleges are inheriting the problem. According to Ms. Phye, the Iowa Department of Education distributes an Iowa Youth Survey that looks at violence, alcohol, tobacco, and drug use. Across the board, family attitudes and community attitudes toward alcohol, the difference between kids 8th grade and 11th grade is phenomenal. As use goes up, attitudes become more negative.

Mr. Stoffer commented there have been several comments about bars in small towns being the center of community life where families go for dinner. Based on the evidence, the state may need to enforce the age to be in a bar on a statewide basis. Ms. Phye said some have suggested 21 at 10:00 to allow for the dinner hour.

According to Ms. Phye, the University of Iowa Student Government unanimously passed a resolution this spring to support and to promote responsible drinking. A student group was formed called United Voices for Alcohol Alternatives which will work to provide alcohol alternatives around campus. Three proposals have been accepted to work with private businesses to stimulate more alcohol-free alternatives. In addition, the University is supporting restoration of a historic theater by providing space on campus for dances and fundraisers to raise funds for restoration.

Julie Thompson — Coordinator for Substance and Sexual Abuse Services, University of Northern Iowa —
Ms. Thompson told the Commissioners about an event called the Beer Flood beginning at 6:30 a.m. on Wednesdays held at Sharkeys for several years. The owner recently discontinued the event acknowledging that it fueled over-consumption and that it was not a business practice of which he was proud. Another bar, Brewsters, picked up the event and further embellished it by serving beer over breakfast and a penny pint promotion. Ms. Thompson said the college communities desperately need the Commission’s help.

Ms. Thompson believes that price specials do play a role. It has been shown that increasing the price of tobacco, leads to fewer individuals starting to smoke and to others smoking less. The same goes for alcohol. She suggested the following alternatives:
  • Limit access to the bars to age 21.
  • Have other activities that students can engage in until 3 AM.
  • Address the issue of price.

Ms. Thompson encouraged the Commission to invite parent associations to give their input regarding price promotions. She extended an invitation to the Commission to meet in Cedar Falls for more input from students, parents and community members.

Mr. Cramer commented that, according to comments he has received from parents and educators all over the state, the problem is not unique to college campuses; it is a statewide problem. Mr. Cramer believes penalties need to be more severe. The recommendations made by the Commission must be made in a manner to make it easy for law enforcement, bar owners, etc to enforce and to isolate the problem and to deal with it. Mr. Cramer believes the Commission will make strong recommendations.

Ms. Daggett suggested that perhaps bars are open too late and that society is encouraging the problems encountered by allowing people to drink until 2:00 in the morning.

Gene Russell — Iowa Hospitality Association —
Mr. Russell asked the Commission to think about the vast number of responsible restaurants and bar-owners throughout the state when they think about structuring a state law. He is personally against that kind of over-regulation.

There are about 6,400 members eligible for membership in the Iowa Hospitality Association. Mr. Russell asked that the Commission weigh their decision responsibly because if 10% of the problem rests with the college towns, then the majority of ordinances or legislation should probably be handled by local ordinance.

Mr. Russell does not believe there is more consumption now than in the 70’s when he was in college. However, he believes parents are more permissive now. Mr. Russell also commented he is from Sac City and he does not believe there is a big binge-drinking problem in that city.

John Klaus — City Attorney for Ames —
Mr. Klaus thanked the Commission for the effort they are making in getting to the communities throughout the state and engaging in dialogue regarding the issue.

Mr. Klaus reported Ames is the only city in the state that regulates the admission of underage people on the licensed premises. That ordinance has been in effect since 1971. The law enforcement people think it is a useful part of a mix. From May 1989 to 1990, the city had an over/under ordinance in effect, which allowed 19 and 20 year olds onto licensed premises if they were ID’d before entry and given a wristband. There was a sunset clause on the ordinance and it was pocket vetoed in January 1990. The succeeding Mayor signed it and the ordinance continued on until the end of April 1990 when it lapsed and was not reenacted.

Mr. Klaus said the city does a number of other things to try to curb underage drinking:
  • Ames has an ordinance stating a person cannot tap more than one keg unless there are a certain number of kybos.
  • The city has adopted the nuisance party ordinance in recognition of the effects that result when parties occur off campus. When there are a number of law violations of a minor sort, police intervene and shut down the party.

Mr. Klaus commented he is very appreciative of the support received from the Alcoholic Beverages Division. Occasionally, the city does have to impose administrative sanctions against licensed premises for violations. Since 1996, the City of Ames has gone to the Administrative Hearing Officers 27 times to impose penalties against licensees. Almost all of these were for underage violations. It is a good process that provides fairness to the licensee and affects a remedy for the local government. Mr. Klaus would like to see it extended to the area of tobacco.

Officer Tom Oxley — Special Operation Unit, Ames Police Department —
Officer Oxley has been on the bar patrol for the past 9 years and with the Ames Police Department for 22 years. Officer Oxley disagreed with many of the previous speakers. He does not believe more laws are needed nor does he believe drink specials are the problem. He is an advocate of more educational efforts. Officer Oxley believes the culture is still to go to college and get drunk with the result that a lot of young people develop some very bad alcohol abuse problems during their college years. If he were going to ask for one uniform ordinance, it would be 21 to be on premises. In addition, he would favor a law prohibiting the sale of carryout beer after midnight.

According to Oxley, Ames has a fairly simple ordinance that states if a business does over 50% of its business in liquor by the drink, it is classified as a bar and people under 21 can’t be in there unless they are accompanied by a parent, guardian or spouse. With this ordinance, there is no problem with a family going to the bar to have a steak, because the individuals under 21 are with their parents.

In 1989 the student council convinced the Ames City Council they just wanted to be in the bars to dance and be with their friends. When the council adopted the over/under ordinance, the police kept very close statistics on the bars that went with the over/under ordinance. The statistics in those bars for underage drinking for possession went up 2000% – 3000% during the period the ordinance was in effect. Officer Oxley says it is hypocrisy to allow 18 years old in a bar when they have to be 21 to drink. It is a fact that underage individuals, who get into bars, get alcohol and that is why they are there. There are 27,000 Iowa State college students and Oxley sees the same 4,000 – 5,000 students drunk every weekend. Students can find something to do if they really want, but getting drunk is a societal norm.

Mr. Stoffer commented he understood that Officer Oxley doesn’t want more laws on the books; however, it would appear that Ames has taken responsible action. Officer Oxley responded the City of Ames has several ordinances that have happened over the years to deal with alcohol. Most communities probably have no need for those unless they have a college in their town. He doesn’t think drinking will slow down or that his job will be any different if drink specials are restricted. Officer Oxley stated that when the legal age to consume was 18 and 19, it was busier because there were more immature drinkers that happened to be legal. He would not want to go back to working without the on-premises ordinance.

Officer Oxley stated the ordinance in Iowa City sounds very complicated. Beer special ads are more a symptom than a cause. A beer special does encourage drinking; however, Oxley believes that, regardless of price, people who want to get drunk will. If beer specials are not allowed, the owners will find some other way to get the kids to come to their bars. All that is accomplished is the bar-owners increase their profit margin. Bar owners make their profit off cover charges and drinks that are not part of the special.

Officer Oxley said fines work and he would like to see the state raise the fines. When he started writing tickets, the fine for possession of alcohol was $34.50. It is now $145.00 and that is no longer a shock to the recipients. Raising the fine would put more money in state coffers and at the same time decrease problems. He suggested an inflationary clause in the fine schedule so the Legislature wouldn’t have to keep revisiting the issue.

Mr. Cramer stated a law would need to have penalties severe enough to apply universally to everyone. An individual needs to know that if he gets cited the penalty will be severe. When the OWI law was strengthened, it was perceived the law was tougher and there was a decrease in the number of people who drink and drive. Now school buses haul students where they want to go.

Ms. Daggett asked why no sting operations are taking place in the towns where students are being bused. Officer Oxley responded that many towns have only one officer and they don’t have the resources. He said there are very effective laws on the books that make it illegal to serve an intoxicated person, however, the problem is how to enforce the laws effectively. New ordinances and laws at a city, county or state level will be worthless if they are written and not enforced.

Although he spends a lot of time on enforcement, Officer Oxley also spends a great deal of time on educational efforts with the retailers. He would like to see more money spent on education because, over the long term, that is how things will change. Mr. Walding commented that, unfortunately, the division’s civil penalty fund used for educational activities has been decreased substantially by the Legislature in the past two sessions.

In addition to running the compliance surveys on alcohol, the Ames Police Department does tobacco compliance for which they receive state money. Police use someone under 18 to buy alcohol and cigarettes. It is a very healthy fine when a bartender gets cited for both offenses. To emphasize the need for more alcohol education, Officer Oxley cited an example that illustrates the effectiveness of tobacco education. In recent alcohol and tobacco compliance checks, the clerk rang up the youth’s purchase of a 12 pack of alcohol without asking for ID. When the youth asked to have a pack of cigarettes added to the order, the clerk asked for ID.

Mr. Walding complimented Officer Oxley and the City of Ames on their enforcement efforts. Oxley responded other towns that haven’t experienced riots in their streets can’t afford to expend what little resources they have to enforce something that is not causing them an immediate problem. Officer Oxley believes an alcohol compliance program similar to the tobacco compliance program would result in more checks.

Adjournment

Commissioner Stoffer thanked the speakers for their input. Deliberations on the issue will continue at the next meeting.

The Commission’s recommendations for prefiled legislation will need to go to the Governor’s Office around November 30th. Mr. Henze suggested more frequent meetings to meet this deadline.

The meeting adjourned at 4:20 p.m.



DARYL K. HENZE, Secretary
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